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Join Marie and Pete this week as they discuss 9 ways to improve your mindset and live a longer, happier, and more productive life.
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Sleep deprivation and genes
Study reveals sleep deprivation is associated with lower DNA repair gene expression and more breaks in DNA. The damage to DNA may explain the increased risk of cancers and neurodegenerative diseases in those who are sleep deprived.
Sleep is your superpower – Matt Walker
Transcript
[Happy intro music -background]
M: Welcome to happiness for cynics and thanks for joining us as we explore all the things I wish I’d known earlier in life but didn’t.
P: This podcast is about how to live the good life. Whether we’re talking about a new study or the latest news or eastern philosophy, our show is all about discovering what makes people happy.
M: So, if you’re like me and you want more out of life, listen in and more importantly, buy in because I guarantee if you do, the science of happiness can change your life.
P: Plus, sometimes I think we’re kind of funny.
[Intro music fadeout]
P: Hi!
M: Welcome back.
P: Here we are.
M: Here we are again!
P: Laugh, and again and again and again.
M: Every week, laugh.
P: Encore une fois. [Once more] Laugh!
M: So, what are we talking about today, Pete?
P: Ooh! What are we talking about today? The nine ways to build a positive mindset.
M: Are you sure we have nine?
P: I’ll invent one, laugh. I’ll create one.
M: Laugh.
P: Just give me five minutes, laugh.
M: Love it. All right, positive mindset.
P: Mmm.
M: What are the reasons why you want a positive mindset?
P: Because unhappy people die?
M & P: Laugh!
M: I don’t know why we laugh so hard.
P: Laugh, it’s our catchphrase!
M: It’s not really appropriate, laugh. [But] yes, they tend to not live as long, how about that.
P: But a positive mindset also has positive implications for your health.
M: Yes.
P: There’s a lot of studies that support that outwardly positive and, um, uh –
M: Optimistic.
P: – optimistic was the word I was looking for. People live better quality of lives and have better health outcomes.
M: Absolutely. And the research shows that you can train your brain to think more positively.
P: Yes.
M: So, if you balance negative thoughts with positive thoughts, then you can change your mindset. So, really, this is about creating those neural pathways in your brain again that we’ve talked about to counterbalance.
P: Mmm.
M: What is a natural tendency to think things are bad in a lot of people? Some people are just natural optimists, and they born that way. Or they grow up and learn that.
P: Yep.
M: A lot of us do tend to spend a lot of time ruminating over things or thinking about all the negatives. And we’ve seen a huge increase in anxiety and depression in all people around the world since, you know over the last 20 years or so. And so actively and proactively, creating a positive mindset or balancing your negative thoughts with positive thoughts is so important to learn how to do.
P: It also creates opportunity.
M: Yes, if you see a door opening and someone else sees the door shutting. You know, there’s two outcomes.
P: There are, yeah.
M: Two very different outcomes from that.
P: Yep. It’s a positive feedback loop.
M: Yeah, absolutely. So, you mentioned that they live healthier and longer. So, we do know that research shows that optimists tend to have healthier lives and lower risk of chronic diseases like diabetes and heart disease as the pessimists.
P: Yep.
M: And on the flip side, pessimists tend to have shorter telomeres.
P: Ah ha ha ha. What are telomeres?
M: Laugh.
P: Shorter bracelets!
M: Laugh. As we discussed a few episodes ago, that means that pessimists age faster.
P: Yes.
M: So, cells with shorter telomeres circulate and release large amounts of inflammatory proteins that contribute to inflammation, which is a mechanism of ageing.
P: So, if you don’t want wrinkles, you want long telomeres.
M: Yes.
P: Add some more beads to your bracelet.
M: By changing your mindset and becoming more positive.
P: Yes.
M: All right, what else we got?
P: Oh. I’m leading? I’m going on this one.
M: So, Pete hasn’t done his homework.
P: Oh, rude!
M: Laugh.
P: Laugh, so rude.
M: You’ll be less stressed. So, people who have positive mindsets cope with the day-to-day turmoil of life better, and they’re also less anxious and less likely to suffer from depression. And so, I think throughout Covid, there have been two very different yet typical responses.
P: Mmm.
M: There are those who have thrived throughout Covid, who have had the skills and the knowledge and the self-awareness to find ways to be positive and proactive about their mental health and their physical health and everything that their body needs. And you’ve had a lot of people who floundered.
P: It’s the same is dealing with crises in general, really, isn’t it?
M: Mmm hmm.
P: There are those people that deal with crisis better or deal with it in a proactive way in a positive.
M: Rise to the challenge.
P: Yeah, and it is. It’s the way you interpret it, as we’ve talked about before, stress is an interpretation. And some people will see a crisis as an opportunity to exercise their brain muscles or their opportunistic, outwardly going selves… don’t know where I was going with that.
M: Laugh.
P: I was reaching, totally reaching.
M & P: Laugh!
P: But yeah, it’s about looking at the situation going right, ‘I’m going to take this. I’m going to drive with this challenge and see where I end up’, as opposed to those who were running away from the tidal wave going, ‘No! Don’t come at me!’
M: Or those who don’t know that they have to take action and therefore end up in a situation that they didn’t know they needed to avoid.
P: Yes, they’re not enabled.
M: Yep, absolutely. And then, lastly, do you want to go now?
P: Yeah. I’m up to the page now, laugh.
M: You’re reading your notes.
P: I was reading Harry Potter before.
M & P: Laugh!
M: If you’re not going to be interested in our show, no one else will be.
P & M: Laugh!
P: You’ll be more successful, yay!
M: Yay, third benefit of a positive mindset. So, tell us what the science says here.
P: Well, compared to pessimists, optimists are more successful. They create social connections. They create communities, they engage with people which allows for more opportunities. They’re also more successful in issues such as marriages –
M: Marriage is an issue?
P: Issues? Yeah.
M: Laugh!
P: It’s an issue. Sure, why not?
M: I’m going to tell my husband he’s an issue. Laugh.
P: There’s a cat next to me. Of course, I’m getting flustered.
M & P: Laugh.
M: So, they’re more successful. There’s a great book by Shawn Achor that makes the case and shows the science behind optimists being more successful in school, at work and in athletics. So, people who are more positive just do better at life.
P: Mmm.
M: Not only at issues like marriage.
P: Laugh! Well, some marriages are an issue.
M & P: Laugh!
M: Very true. Maybe you don’t want to be successful at those.
P & M: Laugh.
M: Alright, so how can you build a positive mindset? Let’s get to our nine, our nine steps.
P: Oh, can we get to number nine first? Because that’s the fun one.
M: How about we leave that right for the end?
P: Aww, but it’s so good!
M: Laugh.
P: Stay tuned, folks. It’s gonna get better!
M: All right, number one, no brainer. It’s get good sleep.
P: Yes, we talked about this a lot. Just one hour of sleep deprivation has big impacts on our genetics on our ability to re-create cells, our regeneration, all those big things.
M: On our genes.
P: On our genes?
M: Not our genetics, they’re set from birth.
P: Uh, no, they do have some impact on … our genetic code.
M: On our genes.
P: Yes… Oh, I see I’m sorry. OK, I got it wrong, I’m just going to be quiet now.
M: Laugh! But we understand what you’re trying to say here.
P: Mmm hmm.
M: It impacts you right down to the cellular level.
P: There we go. Keep talking.
M: Yeah, also, I don’t know about you, but I am just grumpy as all get up after a bad night’s sleep.
P: Laugh.
M: I’m not fun to be around. And I find it really hard to be an optimist if I haven’t gotten enough sleep.
P: Mmm, yeah. Resilience is always low when you don’t have enough sleep as well. You’re just not firing on all cylinders. You’re not seeing opportunities. You’re not seeing those. You’re not resilient enough to actually turn things into an opportunity rather than going, ‘Oh my God, my life sucks!’
M: Yep, or falling apart. You lose your resilience. So global consulting firm McKinsey, has done a bit of work on this in the past few months, and they’re arguing that sleep is an important organisational topic that requires specific and urgent attention.
P: Mmm hmm.
M: And it is so true. We have this hyper connected, always on world and this expectation now that everything has gone digital, that people can answer a call or an email 24/7 and that constant low-level stress is impacting our sleep. And also, people are sending messages and emails at all times of the day and night.
P: Mmm yeah.
M: And we need to change that work culture in order to enable people to have better sleep.
P: Yeah, there’s a really good Ted talk on this by Matt Walker. If anyone wants to look it up, it talks a lot about sleep being your superpower.
M: Mmm,
P: Really good on this topic.
M: Absolutely. All right, number two.
P: Number two.
M: Limit social media.
P: Ooh, I love this one.
M: Yeah, you do. This is your favourite, isn’t it?
P: Yeah. Get off Facebook people.
M: Laugh.
P: It’s evil!
M: Even before Covid social media was well ingrained in most societies around the world. So, in Australia in January 2019, there are 18 million active users of social media websites. Facebook is the most popular with 16 million monthly users in the US, about 70% of adults say they use Facebook, and YouTube. And Instagram and Snapchat are growing in popularity.
P: Mmm.
M: It is such an important part of modern life, and I think people definitely feel FOMO [Fear of Missing Out]. They feel like they’re missing out if they’re not on these channels that everyone around them is using. But the problem is excessive social media use leads to increased depression, anxiety, loneliness, sleeplessness, and many other mental health issues.
P: Yep.
M: And so, if you want to be an optimist and positive, you really need to take control of that social media use and not let it control you and your moods.
P: Be an active user and not a passive user.
M: Yeah, absolutely. All right number three of ways to change your mindset.
P: [Mickey Mouse voice] Surround yourself with positive people, yay!
M: I think we’re doing well on this one.
P: Laugh! Like attracts like they say.
M: Yes.
P: So, bringing positive people into your sphere of influence means that you’re going to be more inclined to pick up on those vibrational, energetic connections. Oh, she’s getting down!
M & P: Laugh.
M: Talking energy.
P: Here we go, we’re going there. Cough-meditation-cough!
M: Laugh!
So, speaking about positive people, one of the best things that you can do with positive people is laugh.
P: Ah, yes. Laughter is contagious.
M: It is, it is. In a recent New York Times article, researchers found that people laugh five times as often when they’re with others, as when they’re alone.
P: Mmm hmm.
M: So, you’ll find if you’re watching a funny movie by yourself, you won’t laugh as much as if you’re watching a funny movie with friends or in a movie theatre. Because, as you mentioned, laughter is contagious.
P: See I’m the person that laughs out loud on his own.
M & P: Laugh!
M: But you won’t laugh as much as when other people are around.
P: True. I also laugh on public transport.
M: Laugh!
P: Maybe that’s my public laughter. I’ll just burst out… usually into song, but laughter as well.
M: Pete believes he’s in a musical.
P: My life is a musical.
M & P: Laugh!
M: The other thing to think about also is humour and the appreciation of humour. So, humour is one of the few things that is observed in all cultures and at all ages. And a lot of research has gone into humour more recently. And it’s one of the top five strengths of happy people, actually.
P: Ahh.
M: So, if you look at Martin Seligman and his work on strengths, you can actually do a lot of that online for free and work out what your strengths are. But if humour is one of your top five, you’re more likely to be happier and more likely to be an optimist.
P: So, Patch Adams was right.
M: Absolutely.
P: Humour is the best medicine. Or was that laughter is the best medicine?
M: Both? Both is fine.
P: We’ll take it.
M & P: Laugh.
M: All right. The next one is really important I think, especially when we talk about happiness and the importance of happiness. Really important, though number four, don’t suppress negative emotions.
P: Yep, they’re there for a reason.
M: Mmm hmm. One of the biggest misconceptions about the positive psychology movement is that people should always aim to be happy, and negative emotions are to be avoided. It’s a load of rubbish.
P: Yep, no. Can’t avoid them. They’re going to be there. They’re going to come up. You have to process them.
M: Absolutely. So, firstly, being happy all the time is impossible. We don’t live in a trouble-free world. And secondly, trying to suppress negative emotions can be really detrimental for mental health. So, the reality is, life is messy and sad and not what we expect and disappointing as well as good and beautiful and all of the other positive emotions. And we really need to make sure that we’re having an appropriate reaction to the situation.
P: Mmm yeah, that’s a good word. Appropriate.
M: Yeah, and that means processing negative events and emotions in a healthy way so you can move forward.
P: And having the skills to do that. And sometimes to have those skills, you need to do a little bit of work behind that.
M: Yep.
P: You actually need to spend some time contemplating, reading around it, going ‘how do I feel about grief? How do I feel about death? How am I going to process that when it comes to call or when it affects my life?’ And if you’ve done a little bit of that background work, it becomes a little bit easier to process your negative emotions and then by processing you get to the other side a little bit more easily.
M: Yeah, and two really good ways to help processes, journaling and talking to people, talking about it.
P: Yeah.
M: Number five.
P: Let’s exercise. [Starts singing] Let’s get physical, physical.
M & P: [Singing] I want to get physical.
P: [High pitched singing] Let’s get into physical!
M: Laugh!
P: There we go, musical theatre degree. Olivia was right.
M: Laugh, oh dear.
P: Movement and exercise if you didn’t get what that was about people.
M & P: Laugh.
P: Moving is good.
M: Absolutely.
P: Motion is lotion. Boom, Boom! Laugh. Thank you, Dan Horne.
M & P: Laugh.
M: So not only are there physical benefits to moving in exercise, but it’s great for your mood and your mental state. So, if you want to increase your positive vibes, if you want to become more of an optimist or increase your positive mindset, go get some exercise into your week or your day. And it doesn’t have to be a lot.
P: Nope.
M: But exercising releases dopamine nor-adrenaline and serotonin, and they’re all the happy drugs.
P: Happy drugs, laugh.
M: So, if we’re talking mindset and positive mindset, this is the fastest way to trick your brain into being happy.
P: Absolutely. You can do that really simply by getting yourself up and shaking the crap out of yourself, literally getting up and vibrating and throwing your arms around and getting really, really elevated with your heart rate.
M: Dance.
P: Actually, dance is one of the best ones. I wasn’t gonna go there because, you know I’m biased towards dance. But yeah, literally jumping up and down for 30 seconds is enough to actually get those endorphins going.
M: Yep, absolutely. All right, number six,
P: Learn something new.
M: I’ve got a quote.
P: Oh.
M: Einstein.
P: Mmm.
M: Mmm hmm. So, he famously said,
“The important thing is to never stop questioning.”
– [Albert Einstein]
M: And he was really smart.
P: Laugh! He was a scientist.
M: Don’t know if he was happy.
P & M: Laugh!
M: But I love the quote.
P: Laugh, he had crazy hair.
M: It is so important to add new things into your environment. So novel things. We’ve spoken about this before and learning a new skill or giving yourself something where you have autonomy and ownership over getting deeper experience and better skills at something is a great way to do that.
P: Mmm.
M: So, when we say learning, you could simply read a book or watch a documentary, you could listen to Ted talks. You could join a class. Or a course, you don’t have to go to a university degree there’s plenty of free classes out there and lots of micro learning nowadays as well. So, you could learn how to put floating shelves on your wall. Or you could go to your local TAFE and do a mechanics course and everything in between.
P: Yep, totally agree. I’m there, laugh.
M: And you know, you’ve just started back at university again, late life haven’t you.
P: Yep.
M: Does that –
P: Oh, huge amounts of mission and purpose.
M: Yep.
P: When we talk about mission and purpose is being one of the pillars of our happiness building. It’s so true because you wake up and you’ve got somewhere to go and somewhere to be, laugh.
M: I found one of the best parts of UNI was just the conversations you have. You have these new ideas running through your head and you’re wrapping your head around your values and how they fit into these new ideas and whether you believe them or not, and you’re forming your own ideas and bouncing them off other people.
It was one of the favourite things was sitting out in the quad on the grass, sometimes with the beer.
P: Laugh.
M: Often with a beer.
P & M: Laugh.
M: And debating these new ideas that we were discovering every day.
P: Yeah, I like the idea of it being reflective. It’s around your values and beliefs. I mean, that’s a great thing, because it does challenge your values and beliefs as well. And that’s a really great way to provide self-reflective practise.
M: Yep, and there are multiple studies and pieces of research that suggests that consistent curiosity goes hand in hand with happiness.
P: Yep.
M: Yep. All right, number seven.
P: Getting outdoors.
M: Ahh.
P: [Singing] Forest bathing.
M: Laugh. It’s the little things right. Taking a walk can have such a huge impact on your mental health and make you happier.
P: Yep, yeah. Go out and hug a tree. Sniff a leaf.
M: Yep. So, the studies show that brain structure and mood improved when we spend time outdoors, and this has positive implications for concentration, memory and overall psychological wellbeing. Also, when you get outdoors, it’s not only the trees and the air, but it’s also the light. So having more sunlight in your day has been shown to improve sleeplessness and mood. So, if you have insomnia, get outside.
P: Yeah, definitely.
M: Number eight.
P: Oh, you take this one. This is yours.
M: Gratitude!
P: Laugh.
M: Practise gratitude. And as we said before, it’s about rewiring your brain so that it’s not constantly focusing on the negative, and the science is really clear on this one. Practising gratitude makes you happier and less stress… Less stressed.
P: Laugh.
M: It leads to higher overall wellbeing satisfaction with your life and social relationships, so making it part of even just a weekly practise can give you all of those benefits and help you balance that negative way of thinking with some more positive and over time, that reinforces, and you start seeing more positive things in your day to day.
P: Yeah.
M: All right, Pete, and what’s your made up number nine?
P: It’s not made up, it’s backed by science.
M & P: Laugh.
P: Drink champagne! Laugh!
M: I think, I think this is my favourite way to improve your mindset.
P: So, a recent study came out in The Guardian in the UK that was talking about when we reach the alcohol, what it is that we’re doing. And studies showed that most people will have a drink when they’re actually feeling happier. So, alcohol can actually lead us to being a little bit more contented. Sure, there is the flip side of that where we do reach for the bottle as a negative coping mechanism for depression or grief or whatever.
But on the whole, most people will have a glass of wine or a beer in the day to increase their happiness.
M: Sorry. Just to be clear, the study showed that people are more likely to drink when they’re happy.
P: Yes.
M: Not the other way around. Not the flip way. So, there’s no causality. Yeah, there’s no causality here.
P: Champagne makes me happy.
M: Laugh.
P: I hear a pop and I’m ready, laugh.
M: Unless you’re Pete.
P & M: Laugh!
P: We don’t want to be encouraging people to be alcoholics.
M: No. [meaning yes] And if you’re feeling sad, reaching for the bottle isn’t going to make you happy.
P: No, that doesn’t work. If you’re already negative, then no.
M: So, I guess what we’re saying is, if you’re happy, you’re more likely to have a drink.
P: Don’t berate yourself if you’re going to have a glass of wine out in the sunshine when you’re out sniffing the trees or being in the ocean whilst expressing gratitude and having a sleep.
M & P: Laugh.
P: All the nine steps above. It’s okay, laugh.
M: And on that note, we’ll finish up for the week. Thanks for joining us again.
P: Have a happy week.
M: And stay cynical.
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M: Thanks for joining us today if you want to hear more, please remember to subscribe and like this podcast and remember you can find us at www.marieskelton.com, where you can also send in questions or propose a topic.
P: And if you like our little show, we would absolutely love for you to leave a comment or rating to help us out.
M: Until next time.
M & P: Choose happiness.
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